[I never understood the credibility assassination strategy of the word "virgin"]
Piers conceded the second he took it to sexual mileage.
Sex life becomes the goalpost when you have no argument & need to tear a persons existential worth down (now what does worth have to do with clapping cheeks or not? Idk, Westerners are really REALLY bizarre when it comes to that) and I love that Nick said it with such confidence:
"No, absolutely not." No stuttering, no Uhs or buts.
See if Nick was a woman, then it wouldn't be a ROAST, it'd be misogyny. If what a man does with his body is everyone's business & on top of that, a joke. Then what a woman does with her body isn't her business either.
- Either all of it's okay or none of it is. We have two different sets of rules of engagement when it comes to men and women, and men are open season for dehumanization. Straight up subhumans.
And then we have this psychotic preconception that's been a thing for years now, that lack of sex aka & specifically:
A man's lack of using women's bodies as sex utilities is somehow a BAD thing & somehow that discredits his stance or legitimacy regarding women. Now, I've never done drugs, but I know not doing drugs/avoiding hard substance abuse is better for your health. And not having done crack before doesn't discredit my stance on the matter because I've never done the thing I speak on.
Piers didn’t say intimacy, or made love, he’s not talking about having a meaningful unity. He’s talking about sex for the sake of badges, the act.
So the credibility of your views on women is put into question------
Because you haven't physically exploited women for sex yet?! Uhhhhhh ¯_(ツ)_/¯
You know how many men that get tail every other day of the week, kids all over the place, not taking care of them or the mother, and STILL are misogynist?
What, we think sex creates allies? HA! If only it were that easy.
This "virgin = credibility assassination" be it aimed at man or a woman: makes no goddamn sense, never did, never has, because some of the most misguided & misogynist peons on the planet regarding women have had sex with women already.
Met plenty myself, wouldn't do it again even for a check. Every other word out their mouth is "bitch", casually, it's a great time to never speak to em again.
The most despicable aspect of a misogynist is they've taken that intimacy for granted, hold it like a badge for the wrong reasons and reduced a woman's cosmic autonomy down to that one act that he's used women for already, cause he's not interested in anything else she has to offer. And yes he has a mother lmfao.
THAT IS LEAGUES worse than a virgin. Now can a virgin complaining about the opposite gender be ironic? Yes! 100% it's ironic but is what they're saying #1 in itself irony #2 is it true? #3 what was the actual point they were making beyond mindless monke brain venting?
Same goes for women with hot takes on men: Plenty of sex experience, but zero life experience with actual men. Don't know shit themselves, yet running their mouths anyway.
- We can sit here & call those women cat ladies/ Sure her hypothetical underlying sexual frustration is relevant to her passion for the topic, but is her argument regarding men valid: [Yes or No ?]
The fact is: Did she make a point or not? That's the point. Her motives and her logic are linked but not mutually exclusive in validity. That Is the point, same goes for Nick or even Piers.
Regardless: The logic of the question "Have you ever had-" to discredit someone says so much about the person asking it.
IMAGINE if Nick was a woman instead, I don't doubt Piers would be disrespectful still, he's been disingenuous with women before but the only reason he took it to sex is because Nick was young and a male & Piers was getting emotional & wanted to hurt him in some way, any way possible. And the fact that the best he could do to "hurt" another male was ridiculing lack of sex as an irony to his views is actually misogynist.
The question itself is masked misogyny, because it implies or blatantly stating a woman's sexual use provides legitimacy or some kind of credit system, the caveat being rolling stones who are misogynists anyway.
So I never understood that logic myself. So by Piers' train of thought, Nick would be vindicated in being a "misogynist" if he's had sex with women.
- Otherwise, where the hell was Morgan going with that?! Lmfao. If Nick was gay: Okay Piers, what are you getting at about gay people?
What Morgan did is exactly what a mentally exhausted 15 yr old girl would do when she ran out of things to say on her pre-determined script.
Which is an insult to 15 year old girls who can actually compose themselves & make a case.
I'm not even saying I agree with Nick, I don't actually-- Things won't get better if women in general just "shut the fuck up", women repressing their grievances or forced to shut down is just another form of regression. Which is how you turn into the middle east.
Things will get better when activists with no arguments shut the fuck up, when academia & article authors stop preying on women's proclivity to accept a narrative if 1# Men are painted as the problem #2 Women/they are the victim #3 Women are not held accountable while men are dragged through the mud, yet again.
Like this 2025 "mankeep" shit, & the hypocrisy of women having the word "reciprocity" in their mouths. That whole topic wasn't because of women talking, that came up because the dumbasses in power & troublemakers running their mouths because peace for Americans is not an option.
Nick is overlooking an important caveat to oversimplify the matter to just boil it down to women sitting down and being grateful will make things better, it won't. It will grant men more agency & they probably won't feel like subhumans anymore if female centric narrative died down but then women will become the black sheep again.
No one needs to shut up, women need to grow "the fuck" up & stop listening to the snakes in power convincing them to bite the apple & sabotage their standing with men over and over and over again.
Women need to stop talking about "autonomy" and start exercising it against same oppressor system that feeds them new slogans every quarter.
There's a lot more to this than women just shutting the "fuck up".
Otherwise this wasn't how to do this on Piers' part. He might've given Nick something to think about if he just got out his feelings & made an argument.
I assume Piers has experienced the bed rock rumble before, and yet he's still a spineless goofball, so what was sex even worth by his own standard.
Sex doesn't make men, it's a vehicle to opportunity or misery, REGARDLESS of gender, like cut the damn shit already.
He's the seniority in the interview & that's where he took it.
Just one question to assassinate someone's credibility & instead, obliterated his own. It's sad.
