"What are your honest thoughts about Kara Zor-El" (Same as the canon, Kara Bore-El is a redundant, but tragic waste of potential) - My Adventures with Lois-Chan

same as the canon:

mediocre/ forced/ entire existence trivializes the miraculous- touching impact of Kal surviving at all, so really-- thanks to her, the LACK of impact of him surviving at all.

(Because most of the Kryptonian villains/extras that survive either get incarcerated, die or killed or were explained to be in the Phantom Zone anyway, so Kara is the main constant that breaks the impact of the "Last Son of Krypton" being "THE LAST", because the way she survives in PC already trivializes Kal's survival once over before her existing at all trivializes his survival twice over)

And most people miss that because most don't truly get the point of Kal's connection to Krypton's memory specifically. And neither do DC writers apparently. Style over substance.

Writers were/ & are still terrified of taking chances with Kara Bore-El & even more allergic to committing to it; god forbid doing anything interesting with this NPC avi of a character. Thats the box she's been in for the past 20 years since Superman/Batman #8, as of 2025

At face value, you could write her off as an innocent/uninspired marketing gimmick, like in the 60s, which she still is somehow- but it's different when writers try to marry her into serious storytelling. Then it gets messier.

But Loeb inserted a unique element of grit in 2004 for her (not a brand new take btw, but the way he did it was fitting for a modernization) that if committed to: could've made Kara something special, tragic & even contradictory even, in a good way. The same opportunity My Adventures, New 52 , & others had.

Even then, Loeb made some mistakes, one of which is making her his cousin again. Fan-fic tier writing, insulting even.

Now she's a basic bih anime extra in My Adventures with Lois-Chan, as I predicted the day Episode 2 of Season 1 dropped.

I knew exactly what was going to happen when they announced Season 2 before Season 1 could get comfortable, these cats truly overestimate her importance in the Superman lore. She's a part of it, not essential to it.

Now, to be fair--- I didn't see the genocide angle coming, & yet it surprised me just as much as Horikoshi's good concepts in My Hero Academia, meaning it works better as an aesthetic because that's all it amounts to.

And with that in mind-- I knew exactly what to expect: Solid concept, whack execution.

An edgy concept with wasted potential is as useful as a cup of purified water for someone drowning to death. Style over substance.

• And before her trauma could be explored or tapped into, developed, milked even: we've moved on; before this version of Kara could finally maybe raise the goddamn bar for the Supergirl ARCHETYPE as a whole, this could've been it for her & all takes to come after her- but instead they did exactly what Supergirl writers do and that's backtrack, domesticate her & maintain status quo cause that's easier to manage, it's safe.

As if the mere prospect of the genocide alone was supposed to be enough; and never mind what a revelation like that would do to a person all at once, let alone long term- the reality that their body was repeatedly ventriloquized/violated for the cause of deaths of civilizations, WHAT?!

Before she could even properly process that, here comes Lois-Chan, James & the plot, just in time to ruin the scene and prevent introspective development.

These writers can't commit or cook anything. ADHD writing since season 1, in a rush to avoid making a competent story.

It amazes me how WB can sleep on goldmines like Cassie Cain & Starfire but Supergirl gets all these chances. She's likable, yes- yet the LEAST interesting of their heroines. Super-Nepotism.

• people like the idea of kara, they love the novelty of a girl with the powers of Superman.
• Novelty. This has been the case before the century turned, however: Wasted potential, that's the most consistent element about Supergirl since the beginning. Wasted potential / Mediocrity. And that element is represented consistently in this mid show.

"Honest Thoughts"?

Kara is garbage overall, but with good intentions. The end.

But this version of Kara Snore-El specifically is a Dollar Tree attempt (keyword: "attempt") at The Iron Giant, X-23, Winter Soldier, Zuko, Cassie Cain, or even Chase from Kamen Rider Drive or accurately? SON OF DARKSEID from Superman The Animated Series (which came BEFORE Loeb's Evil Kara take in 2004) because Kara is literally nothing without Superman.

(Kara In-Ze-- well rounded attempt, easy to follow without deep homework, not Kal's cousin, outsmarted Zod/ she's clever, some missed opportunity but decent enough; still knockoff but tolerable, solid)

So if it's solid, it's solid. This Kara is not one of them, a messy, tumblr fan-fic attempt at a Supergirl and it shows in both the execution to how she looks.

Could you get anymore uninspired?

Android 18 was no total victim, she was all in for being a menace until she was the one getting hunted (Cell), which was sweet karma. But Android 18 was 1-3 of public enemies and she was neither 2 nor 3. Why can't we get a Kara that just embraces not having to be a DLC Superman? Why does she always have to be attached to this man & why does she always get thrown in universes where a Superman exists already, thus forever making her existence redundant, holy moly. I don't like the concept of this character let alone the character
on mass, period, but even I have to question why DC keeps doing that to her in mainstream.

And then they give her this little facial scar at the end of the season, ooooh she has a scar guys, really making the most of that "Adult Swim" brand lmfao.

Lightning Lad loses an entire arm in a kids show, but the best they can do here is a glorified tattoo. "Adult Swim" Cowards lol.

Otherwise, Kara consciously committing such crime because she knew what she was doing because of bad nurture vs Making it all Brainiac's doing-- takes the agency & accountability off of her (PREDICTABLE, I thought this was "ADULT SWIM", not KidsWB)

Which negates more intrigue she could've had, which is what ALWAYS happens to this character, because writers insist on PROTECTING her instead of writing her worth a crap through blisters.

Even Tom King couldn't pull it off

• For him, yet another self-discovery re-tread because thats all Kara is worth nowadays, grips constantly where her place is or purpose; the best DC can do every 9-10 years is edge bait or Kara re-learning & Re- re learning again self-help "identity" themes, because she DOESN'T organically have one. Otherwise you wouldn't need to try that hard to justify a character thats almost 100 years old.

This is why she has always been Kara BORE-EL, and it bleeds into the show.

• The show wants the money shot of Kara floating over burning city
• it wants the tease of her being an obstacle, but not entirely an enemy (because then she's not a victim)
• then it wants the tsundere kawaii "she's awkward & doesn't know how to be normal" moments to attract all the smooth brained monke's ready to adopt a new pet waifu, max cringe,
• the show wants all of that without any of the consequence or work, when that baggage, that controversy is exactly what the writer NEEDED to exploit while the iron was hot- to make this Kara the best of them all, in just under 3 episodes, if not 1.
• She could've been the best that Kara should've been since her debut in the revamp in 2004. But nope, "Style over substance." Modern Anime syndrome.

In the history books, this Kara gets points for edge (not unique, its been done already), just like her post-crisis version getting rimjobbed back in the day because Kara's more "angry" than Kal because of her memories of her home and that made her more interesting than him (Bullsh1t, no it didn't. If anything, that's actually Zod & Superboy-Prime. But nobody's tryna have that conversation)

• Otherwise, unless they did something of substance with said edge (Red lantern arc/Daughter of Brainiac) +AND COMMITTED (which they didn't), the edge is actually a strike against her, cause all it did was just set her up for being put in a status quo box, yet again.

In her defense, she was seriously robbed here, because this show's writers specifically- constantly prioritize cheap /quick payoffs over development (this literary quirk of theirs agitated me since Season 1's premiere); The show successfully modernized her (yet again) & did her zero favors anyway (yet again), when this could've been the turning point for how Supergirl should be written across all her media & DC meta, if done right. It's Adult Swim, there's zero excuse for this.

Not enough commitment & drive to mold her into something believable----ESPECIALLY if they decided to go with GENOCIDE of all things....they didn't have to take it there but they did, now they don't wanna do the work in the season relevant to the matter THEY themselves chose to introduce. Sloppy, hence the series.

tl;dr As she is now is what she's always been, mid/redundant/wasted potential/forced/robbed/& forced

Too much protection & "not her fault" syndrome- to get anything interesting / or legitimate done.

My Hero Academia Chapter ….431- The aromantic/sterilized bro handshake.

 

Not gonna say everything I want to say now, imma just let the meme speak for itself.

The whole Deku being the last user, aka “Deku is special snowflake” chapter (Jan 2023)

 

If we’re talkin in terms of generation- he’s the last, SURE. “Maybe.”

But otherwise not true, he shouldn't be the last user. 

Cause he's not the only Quirkless, there's Melissa, he could pass it to her when he’s reaching his end or just share the burden. 

It’s not like his powers immediately switch off if he lets her inherit it. 

Cautious is one thing but to presume it ends with him would be to pretend she never existed. Now granted if she was an anime only addition fine, but she is in the manga as far as i understand it.

And if they apply these rules to the show too- that's going to be a blatant plot hole, twice over.

She’s out there getting it done without powers, unlike him who got handed the biggest miraculous happenstance in the MHA Universe which carried him to Hero status. 

All Might had a candidate: Melissa- great kid, good head on her shoulders, inventor by trade so imagine the shit she would’ve been capable of with OFA if she got to go to U.A and trained....

And he chose Deku anyway. Some brat he didn’t know lmfao.

Which is why Deku should’ve gotten into U.A on his own and then Yagi discovers him by the sole fact that a quirkless got into the school on his own merit.

Cause he otherwise would’ve opped out just because he didn’t have a Power, in Episode 1 he boosted himself to keep going before the slime kaiju attacked. But in principle he was discouraged, he wasn’t motivated, he was going through the motions. 

• He didn’t try for Support or General course then switch to Hero like Shinso did, nope he just done for done or half assing or weak knees cause he didn’t have a power. Because he’s not immediately getting returns.
• Because momma said “sorry”, and that’s not what he needed to hear. 

HUH?! How tf is he she in the wrong for supporting him but it wasn’t the support he wanted at the time. 

Weak.

Proof being he kept longing for someone to “tell” him what he “wanted” to hear, he needed someone to tell him to follow his goal instead of just committing because he’s serious.

I didn’t need another Naruto, but whatever the fuck this was wasn’t an MC, this was an Extra with too much screen time.

Just fell into his lap and it worked out. And how do we know it worked out? The bastard told us in the first 3 Episodes, Spoilers?? Lmfao.

Melissa was definitely a later retcon because when you think about it, Bates and Melissa should’ve been  the same person AND the first successor to OFA and Deku would be the 2nd.

Melissa should’ve been the MC, on god.

The Issue with Anissa The Viltrumite, is not entirely what she did to Mark. It's how she's written after the fact.

The main issue with her character is not entirely what she did, the Viltrumites are bred to be intergalactic Vikings, Vikings raped people. It happened. And she’s a bad guy.

But the issue is, she didn’t stay bad: they tried the (she comes around) trope, that was problem #1 they tried humanizing her or contriving some redemption while she never directly or appropriately deals with what she did dehumanizing her baby’s daddy in any real believable way.

They tried to Omni-Man her WITHOUT doing what made Omni-Man’s turn work in the first place, narrowly so but it worked.

There’s no organic consequence to what she did. We’re not in Viking times, Invincible is supposed to be in a semi-modern era, if not beyond. So the handling of this was horrid.

She’s very oddly protected from backlash for what she did in-story.

And there’s no narrative point to her existence beyond being a means to birth Markus (which means little to nothing because he wasn’t instrumental in the war, just a DLC side plot post-event), which is hilarious that she’d name the boy after the man she raped (i wonder if that was before or after she miraculously had her little change of heart)

So she either named the boy after the dehumanized father (for some reason, cause it’s not she knew Mark, so why name him after someone she doesn’t know) or she became a good person and thought naming him after Mark was her being a good person or some shit. (stupid, lunatic)

• Either way, it’s stupid. She doesn’t work, because even by comic standards, it’s not realistic. At all. Even all these years later, it has not aged well AT ALL.

She just gets to rape someone, Mark protects her from consequence, she threatens him with more rape, she doesn’t suffer any long term consequences.

And no her death wasn’t a consequence of that directly, cause if she’s dead how tf is her character supposed to grow from a consequence by being dead.

The point is for HER to woman up & develop.

The point is she suffers consequence to become a better person organically, not change off-screen, and now suddenly she’s a good person. She tells Eve she’s “sorry” (ha, she’s sorry she brutally raped a person) but she doesn’t regret it.

Yeeeeah, sounds like a real sympathetic character with dimensions doesn’t it.

“Thomas” or KORR-El The 3,000 year old Daxamite raped Supergirl on the moon. When she confronted him about it later to fight, he threatened her he’d to do it again because her pressing him at the moment was turning him on....and she backs off.

Years later before he dies saving Kara’s partner in a battle he says to let Kara know he’s “sorry”, and because their Baby is a good kid, he doesn’t regret it.

Doesn’t sound so simple when it’s reversed huh? Guess what, it’s equally fucked either way. It’s beyond psychotic to think you can wipe something as inhuman as rape away because you’re sorry and the baby is a good kid.

And the fact that she gets a semi-honorable death, like she earned that shit?! HOLY MOLEY.

I think the story is confusing her with Nolan, or forgot that she raped the main character and actually enjoyed it. And told him to “Man up” afterwards !! lmfao.

No lack of Misandry here. Keeping the “men don’t matter” trope going strong, well done Kirkman.

Again, I’d love to see that shit reversed. Amazon would never ok The First season, it would never get greenlit if a man told a woman to “woman up/ man up/ grow up” after he rapes her in superhuman fashion to where he clothes are history.

• Now, they might change it, but since as of (March 2024) the cunt is already in Season 2, I don’t think they’ll course-correct at all.
• Cause this is their opportunity to fix her character, doesn’t mean don’t have her rape mark but she better feel the ramifications on-screen

But you see that right there is why she doesn’t work.

She doesn’t go through any due process or consequence that makes sense.

And now I’m here HOPING they fix her, because we live in a society where dehumanizing men is played as a joke, male suicide & rape is an afterthought like Men are second class citizens but telling a woman to stay in the kitchen is career suicide, in 30 years that might even put you in prison.

And no, i’m not joking. Women are that privileged.

But men getting raped is a non-issue.

Same exact energy here, she rapes a guy, and gets to have a good life, and only changes because she decided to: because of someone else, not that SHE grew as a person of her own accord. If I remember correctly, she didn’t even apologize to his face! Or no moment of closure for the two of them, it’s like the writers wanted the rape scene but didn’t know how to navigate the situation after they got their shock-factor.

Because notice how Nolan wasn’t out here notably raping Deb. Anissa did that shit, because Anissa wanted to rape someone after she was told no.

And we see the changes Nolan went through, Anissa? Nope.

Scumbag character because of shitty writing.

If you want to deal with a topic like rape? Treat with the same sensitivity if it were a woman, or don’t do it at all. Women are not special. Men are people. They build your goddamn cities.

This was another one of those Kirkman-isms where he just does edgy shit to be edgy and didn’t know what the fuck he was actually trying do or say with it or where he was going with it.

• We have characters like Vegeta who committed planetary genocide single-handedly, but he’s still somehow a beloved character nowadays with a following. (I’m personally not a fan, he’s too goddamn whiney but I was a fan a few years back so I get the appeal.)

IF THAT can happen for a genocidal lunatic, Anissa did not have to be handled the way she was, there was a way to do it properly.

And the most believable way? Is not revenge porn, not justice porn, but organic consequences.

The lack of that, is why she doesn’t work.

Rightfully hated character, but she didn’t needed to be hated this much, she could’ve been better.

All they had to do was handle her & the topic with more fucks to give beyond the actual fucking or just stay away from it if they didn’t have a plan for her to develop appropriately in the first place.