That man's (George the Giant Slayer, on Youtube) script is top-notch
POV: me when other brothas & sistas stepping up spittin pure uncut, potent facts without "imo" in their mouths::: 🧐🍷
"-turn disrespect into dollars."
exactly.
Cause if it's not that deep? Ok, cool. Then give us more Gods of Egypt 2016, this time showcasing more obscure African gods & goddesses. Cast Timothée Chalamet as Anansi & more films like The Conqueror (1956 film) *John Wayne as Genghis Khan*, and make them eligible for an Oscar if it's good.
If it's not that "deep", then lets have more fun with this. Because if it's only one way, then it's not diversity, it's selection:: kinda disgusting.
"Disgusting is kind of an overreaction", yeah? How about rigid norms like Authentic casting which limits voice actors & voice actresses work prospects even more (thanks for that btw, dear Corporate)
📌POV::'You voice the black, because you're black. And because the character is black, regardless if you were raised in Italy, you can voice the American Black because you are simply.......black.'
I'm helping, said the maternal minded progressive.
📌POV: 'You're a woman that can voice a 13yrold boy or even a toddler, or an infant, convincingly? And you are the best in your field for over 20 goddamn years? Too damn bad, you don't get to make a living today Sista because that's not authentic. Your skill as a VOICE+ACTRESS is irrelevant in VOICE+ACTING. Welcome to the better way.'
..... toxic... framework. And these ppl think they know what's best-- For you.
📌POV: I, as an actor, helped make the film eligible for an Oscar not because it's good, not because I did anything special but because I was wrapped in the right skin color.
#progress #diversity #selection
And these big wig ppl think they're the good guys & we're supposed to clap and consume.
This is what happens when Corporate turns into Mommy. This is what happens when your professional, academic, media complexes gradually turn- into- mommy.
TL;DR
It all bleeds into these harmless little casting decisions, these harmless, predictable, repetitive, formulaic casting decisions--- obeying rigid norms, when last I checked, norms were a bad thing but I guess that only applies to Patriarchal frameworks..... that make 90%+ of the cool shit, including superheroes ..... even the Odyssey?
The reverse has happened, 100% White guy as Genghis Khan? Really? Lol.
But how dominant this has been going on, so fixed into the media complex YOU HAVE to have this crap in your video games, comics, and movies? Just to be eligible for awards?
Brown up your project as if the people you're hiring are these pieces on a gameboard, then maybe we'll give you a cookie. It's disgusting.
Outrage aside fam, I'm Juuuust sayin', an animated epic of a talented Hispanic/white/asian woman whatever voicing a black woman playing Mulan with a solid character arc, Spiderverse tier animation, & whooping ass to 2008 Dubstep with Daniel Pemberton & John Ottman on the score, just might be the palette cleanser Hollywood needs, bold & brave. Not even joking.
See, it began as expanding opportunities aka good intentions, i get that--
and then, as usual, the collectivist (*cough Soc***ist)/diversity turned into "selection" & another form of homogeneity but only for the right people.
Because ofc benevolent discrimination whatdoyaknow? Isn't moral superiority, it's a takeover, and if that's too dramatic.
Then try: Double standard. 🌈
If being sidelined in their own fic-cultural lore was good enough for the Greeks. (Cause they still have Homer's original book, TROY, other translations; they can just go enjoy the takes that's deemed accurate tbh, all jokes aside.)
Let's give the Chinese a whirl in the name of creative liberties & artistic risk, or "representing the world-" in the cultural specific story that's not about "the world", and see how that goes. ¯\_👁👄👁_/¯
And as much as I liked Perry's layer because her voice just has that sound; I found it wasn't the song that hooked me, overtime that whiney defiant overtone in the lyrics became more unattractive as i got older (Cyndi Lauper vibes just way more on the nose); for 'I kissed a girl' tho, ultimately the lyrics still kick but I outgrew them. It was always the music and that guitar riffing that was the staple, ngl. It's sick how funky it is.
Glad he/many enjoyed it, i’ll try it eventually- however.
Just from a distance, even before seeing the movie, I wish Peter moved on from Michelle.
In retrospect; I get she was a rider (she was 100%), they been through it together, but a soft regress is a cop-out.
Having Sadie play someone else who helps him heal just as a friend most of the entire movie: Planting the seeds of a new bond for him but not moving too quickly but ultimately building upon the “Brand New Day” namesake of actually moving on without regressing.
Have the new character be in the background first 30 minutes, show her doing her own thing, coming and going, they say hi, have witty banter, cheeky stuff in between the dark storyline. Smallville’s Clois level energy.
A confident dork.
📌Namely, importantly: Give her destinations, passing him by, curate a sense of purpose for her, so she doesn’t just exist to be the replacement for MJ; she’s got shit going on too. To cook that payoff just right, that is paramount for me, she needs to be almost fleeting but present, simultaneously.
Peter can get help, but still has to process the trauma, he has to do the work. This way he’s not hopping on a new train via romantic platitudes and smoochy.
But it’s a painstaking transition, it’s been 4 years but you don’t just get over something like that situation especially when it happened like that.
Ultimately, she is patient. Even before she figures out the secret, she sees his integrity and character.
Otherwise, establish she & Peter know each other prior in-between NWH & BND, skip the meet-cutes. The neighbor to lovers trope.
edit: they actually teased the neighbor thing as a gag in the movie where the woman tried to make small talk about them being on the same floor and Peter brushes her off awkwardly. I made this pitch originally before seeing the film by a few hours but i’m glad the movie inadvertently illustrated my point. Even though they sped-walked passed it, kinda feel bad for her tbh.
Pitch continued: He’s resisting her hints, help, counsel for most of the movie (a good 55% of it to focus on his personal baggage, just so the blue-balling doesn’t piss off the audience too much through peter rejecting a good thing): Just to reinforce his dysfunctional avoidant and isolationist martyrdom.
She’s not hunting him down, they simply meet at the laundry mat, on the street, Empire State: have her even point out how they can’t seem to avoid each other.
And part of the arc is him moving on first in a similar fashion to the movie but the friendship is a vehicle to that outcome; accepting who this woman is, not who MJ was. Because reasonably moving on isn’t going to be easy like a light-switch.
And to side track, let’s highlight his trauma track record:
Aunt May’s death & her dying right in front of him
Goblin’s terror on his life in less than 3 days
having fought at the Avengers Compound in a deadass war
losing Tony & watching him… die right in front of him.
The trauma of being dusted to death.
the trauma of coming back & the world is in another server entirely.
the trauma Mysterio put him through/ getting hit by that train.
the anxiety of the whole world knowing who he is, yes, that still happened btw; I will admit I had remind myself that that happened.
ofc the trauma of being forgotten by his bestfriend and girlfriend, the world. (how does that effect gov. records, dental, school forms? pictures, physical pictures? *shrug)
fighting a Warlord (Thanos) on Titan, etc. etc. etc.
Peter’s rejection of Ursula-like wouldn’t be justified in how he does it, brushing her off; but his blockheadedness would be thoroughly rationalized & made clear that he’s got more going on in his head than just Ned & Mj not being there. He’s been through it, and far too young.
Illustrating the scale of his headspace keeps the audience from trivializing the true weight of his burden just because he’s rejecting her best efforts, & some may/ most will likely sympathize with her and through that may becomes frustrated with Peter; Audience Psychology is real.
Because at the end of the day, she doesn’t truly know him yet, or the full scale of what he’s been through even when she figures out he’s Spider-Man.
TL;DR Committing to the consequences of the spell vs tailing MJ & Ned here and there; then MJ gets involved anyway through plot, and while I appreciate the maturity to have MJ state the obvious that she is not who he knew & they don’t just resume activities after his confession: Good scene, good acting. Regardless, it still regresses the NWH sendoff, especially the ending.
His soft following/ stalking; even the trailers didn’t sell me on, that was a red flag. But I get it, still not on board.🚩
My charge is, even before watching the movie: What’s the destination? If they’re showing him shadowing Ned & MJ in just the trailers, that’s regression. We can’t keep him stuck.
Even actual spiders eventually move their web-domains to different locations. Moving on.
Again, this theoretical Sadie switch, make her a blatant variant of Ursula Ditkovitch or something (she deserved better). Homemade chocolate cake & “a glass of milk” meme and everything.
No kissing, not in this movie. Just chemistry, warmth, and connection; everything he needs but doesn’t want, not from her. Not initially.
The audience would know undoubtably what their trajectory is as a couple/team, but they themselves don’t & that’s ok. They don’t need to rush it.
The point is not fixing all his issues in one movie or replacing anyone, but him finding some meaning beyond his memory of a past life, beyond the Spider. Processing his problems, vs a “fix”, letting go his illusion of control, which inadvertently can be the key to mastering the Arachnimode.
The secret is kept, MJ & Ned don’t find out, no contrivances there, no MJ being meat puppeteered to kiss peter. (good on him for telling her. That spoke volumes, a very good scene. One of many good scenes)
Just a little bit more progress in that respect but with something more tangible & evident that he actually gains a life of his own by the end of the movie; 📌but only after he moves on. Again, he can still have a brief interaction with Ned & MJ, but only brief.
I get/ & got what BND was going for. It’s in the title of the movie. But it’s self-defeating.
NWH was already such a good threshold for a fresh start to soft regress without a tangible storytelling takeaway would be a waste. Its interesting.
Brand New Day — The Jean Grey problem:
Cause what they did with Sadie’s Jean character instead was: Bizarre, a little bit concerning, and at times- disgusting.
That she not only got away with it, but got validated by aunt May in peter’s memory: Wait what?
So we didn’t even get to see aunt may showing peter that love.
She instead expresses it to this character that had a chunk of the city hostage simultaneously as she got glazed, lmfao.😂She’s a terrorist.
📌Jean is still a person. Jean has a reason, yet a reason is not an excuse.
And her claim that “her (sara) only crime was being special/different” (paraphrasing) — is immediately/pre-emptively contradicted by the fact that they were playing with peoples minds in the park then having ice cream afterwards.
This is Wanda levels of avoidance, or thinking having emotional pains (sympathetic) justifies being a scumbag or a straight up menace or a violator to serve an endgame.
Even if they did that invasive telepathy on rats or something instead of people in the park, it’d still be concerning; so the fact that the movie shows them blatantly doing that to people; NO ONE in the park finds it weird, that people a few meters off are bustin’ a move and the girls just move on?
But Sara’s “only” crime was being a special snowflake.
IMAGINE if Andrew from Chronicle pulled this shit, or the script specifically just let him fly off to Tibet to start over after all that. He got close with the “Apex Predator” schtick; and yet, being a kid at the bottom of the food chain. His attachment to that concept made sense & no, the movie doesn’t destigmatize what he did just because he started out a victim.
A victim of circumstance is not justified to be a demon. (Wanda, Jean, Andrew, Superboy-Prime etc.)
We knew he was a victim by both his school peers & father, the situation of his mother and no one was making excuses for what he chose to do. What makes the movie so hard to watch is just how much anti-glazing Andrew gets no matter what he does.
Wanda gets excuses, Jean gets excuses, even Walters deflected accountability etc.
The film thinks we’re that stupid, or for the benefit of the doubt, doesn’t catch it’s own condescension.
That’s what kept this from being the best Spider-Man film of all time (most of it is still a fire film tho): Jean Grey telepathically hijacking the narrative.
Tom Holland worked his ass off here, this is one of my favorite Spider-Man performances in a live-action movie: his charisma & confidence with the people, the police; his immediate panic & empathy when he hurt that Policewoman etc. It’s beautiful, reminds me of Reeve Superman.
📌The Arachnid hormone mutation was not leaned hard enough into.
Not to the point of Man-Spider tho, as some comment-nomads seem to want. No thanks, I’m good on that.
But TL;DR that should’ve been the main antagonist of the film, his own evolution, something he can’t talk to, reason with, appeal with a memory or punch into submission.
Have him actually train with his new abilities for a while vs just suffering it.
Otherwise: what happened to Sara wasn’t right, no question.
But let’s not forget the fact that they were playing with people’s minds like they were new toys to experiment with, violating absolute strangers in a park, making them all do the damn wiggle.
📌Violating Banner, let’s address that: Which wasn’t brought up in significance after the fight scene. Not enough, if at all: her being the cause of reawaking his demon, his trauma, and putting him through the anxiety of hurting people. Jean never answers for that.
We know Banner, not her. What makes her so special that she can violate someone who has earned peace, served the country & the world despite his mistakes; he’s a veteran. Then she gets to get off scott-free?
And then everything she did to all those people throughout, including that guy that got hit by that cab because she was playing with his mind — -
she made a hand ninja impale himself just to get Peter, apparently they’re just misguided talent, what did he do to deserve a blade in his guts?
The tank plowing through the city, the possible brain damage implications of jerking through people’s minds like that & they have no memories afterward.
It’s just so much that didn’t need to be in the movie.
Sadie could’ve been a way better engineered entity towards that more productive alternative of an Ursula-like. No powers, just a normal, witty, dorky neighbor; way more significant presence. Could save some money on CGI too.
And the antagonist, again, should be his creeping primality- his built-in instant kill.
His guilt, trauma, and maybe a Morlun mystic that’s gravitating to Peters climbing spider essence.
Or (for those that aren’t a fan of the totem take) a Morlun-like that escaped DODC & has been living in the sewers this entire time for maybe we’ll say: 4–6 years under the radar stifling his appetite — to explain how no one ever found him.
Killing addicts & criminals to satiate his hunger with his own bizarre/disgusting justification of who the world won’t miss.
But it escalates to anyone he chooses or gets too close because he can’t contain it anymore. Maybe even say children go missing & all that that implies is what really gets the city in a panic (because Spiders do not discriminate via morality). To amp up the stakes, the crisis, mortality.
To give Peter a physical match, not a MCU villain mirror: that almost tempts him to give in to his impulses too. But the temptation for Parker (to avoid mischaracterizing him) being when he’s under Arachnid mode, it’s not the power that tempts him, he knows better.
But in his vulnerable, brittle mental state, It’s main his cold/machine spider-instinct mode that dampens the emotional pain & the memories, his need for connection. So it’s like a high, his senses expand, but his human cognizance shrivels. Until he masters it, it’s a tragic trade.
The power, not needing to hold back, his moral inhibitions are de-prioritized. Another excuse not to be vulnerable, avoidant; which ties into Peter’s mindset in the film as is. His own loneliness epidemic.
Save for Aunt Mays memory, Tony, memory of Mj, Ned, his career — basically everything he accomplished brings him back. And ultimately Ursula-like.
Make it more about Peter, than him having to share the script with a seldom-sympathetic terrorist in the 2nd to 3rd act.
Keep Frank, keep DeWolfe (I enjoyed her presence way more than I expected); keep Ned & Mj’s cameos but scarcely. Using their presence as a visual for Peter to see, seek after, briefly interact as temp fix, then eventually move on from committing to the consequence.
Grey wasn’t it, how she used her powers was interesting, namely her limit & how she worked around it.
Her motivation was understandable, & yet what ruins it is this accountability avoidance fetish the MCU possesses with these toxic female characters, the narrative confusing sympathetic reasons for excuses. That needs to evolve, it’s not cute.
"Its because there are shows where you get horny by body odor, where you jerk off to images of feet; where you bark like an animal. And think this is what thousands of years of recorded civilization amount to." - ThatAnimeSnob 2026
3:44
One of the ThatAnimeSnob quotes of all time.
One hand its just a tv show, on the other hand .... is being a gooning loser what your bloodlines survival amounted to? All the risks were taken so we could have a packaged life experience, just so we can squander it masturbating in filth as dogs, tinies, footslaves, anything to communicate being less than what you are because that way you don't have to meet a standard, comfort of weakness. Squandered precisely because the privilege wasn't earned. I mean damn, it aint that deep; but should it be? Maybe part of the problem is the significance is actually not as trivial as we want it to be, maybe what we put in our heads actually does matter, or not? Thats tough. whomp.
I'm not asking they spell out the whole entire movie plot, but at this point they can't afford to be holding back as to what ppl are paying to watch, not even a little bit.
This isnt Infinity War, they cant afford to play the "stand together" speech type of trailer. 🫡
We are Waaaay past that😭😂 the last thing they need to be doing is be vague.
📌point being: needed more scenes of Doom, more Doom talking, ppl name dropping him-- the reason most ppl are seeing this clusterfuck. They were smart to end it with that thor/doom clash scene, very anime, but we needed more of that throughout.
As long as these movies are gonna be, as long as we're made to wait for these trailers.
they should have more than enough clips to spare. Even if it's just Vic standing in a room, staring at a fireplace ominously, give us more of something.
But that final clip is genius. Pure GIF bait, pure thumbnail.
I hope this movie and the next one succeeds. But they can't afford to be holding back, not now.
We've done the superhero teamups, we know what that looks like. We Don 't need most of the trailer Be people meeting and doing the dramatic trailer photogenic looks---We like Thor, but we need more of the hook that he's talking about in the first place (allegedly Thor is talking about Doom, could be misdirection), even if it's just hearing pieces of his motivation or something from him directly.
But I'm so glad they didn't ruin Dooms look, the mask looks great. Hood and everything⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
7:23 the married man life span thing is very real, it's part of the balance of the family unit that a woman's unique perspective fills in the gaps of an average man's tunnel-vision blind spots; however we really should be taking of oneself, wife or no wife.
Cause if godforbid circumstances claim her life early, then what? When time claims her, then what? If she leaves, then what? If she's a hot mess too that doesn't know how to eat proper also, then what?
Just the broad statistic of being married as a man means you'll 'likely' or 'tend to' live longer isn't an insurance policy, because at the end of the day: if you need a woman around just so you eat properly & sleep proper that's a skill issue.
If you already do and she enhances that, that's different. But a lot of people cite that fact of marriage with confident complacency, not realizing there's backhanded subtext attached to it.
soc-commie systems redistributes resources because it produces & builds nothing and maintains even less than that; Socialism & equity mechanisms works best as programs under capitalism & meritocracy. Why? Same reasons why movements like Feminism work best when under patriarchal systems that provides them capital & resources to even use for their goals.
Those resources don’t just come out of thin air. Capitalism atrophies but it produces, competition drives the machine Vs socialism, like matriarchy is a connective glue but consumes itself into implosion. It atrophies without the production to compensate for it.
Capitalism very scarcely works on it’s own because it drains yet produces to supplant the drain.
But neither matriarchy or socialism are designed to run the program perpetually when it produces nothing but ideals, feelings based goals without the tools to do anything; promises and no production.
At least not on the level of macro-society. Which is why they don’t pioneer U.S.A’s--- that equity & socialism shit shows up AFTER the harder work is done; funny how that works, right?
Only small scale flexible ecosystems is where that equity schtick works, socialism works best as public services or welfare nets— just like matriarchy is what keeps communities together; it doesn’t build empires.
Roles & norms exist for a reason. And that rings true even if the rigidity of roles intimidates people, not everything is subjective or interchangeable or ambiguous; why? because that is NOT how you got this far.
The declines didn’t start until people got cocky & started challenging and abolishing everything. Yet the new norms that causes supposed “loneliness epidemics” & women’s “burnout”, the very egalitarian-relationships that satisfy not as many as you'd think/ that equitable system that does NOT work by itself (like socialism) THOSE norms don’t get challenged.
Matriarchy is optimized under patriarchy. The “everyone matters”, everyone’s a winner, that very maternal concept of “equity” & “collectivism”, that feelings oriented ideal sounds best on paper until it has to prove it’s worth.
Right up until it runs out of the resources the patriarchal/capitalist/ the production based system made available in the first place. Including the very country capitalism made possible in the first place.
The socialism, like matriarchy, like egalitarianism are patchworks to compensate capitalist/patriarchal oversight. No more, no less.
This is precisely why rich American socialists stay over there with the silver spoon in their mouths instead of going to the socialist countries that’s doing what they want already. They stay their asses right there in America because they like the idea of being rebels simultaneously as patriarchy feeds them.
One redistributes and disseminates resources, the other produces and actually builds something. You don’t have to choose one or the other, socialist programs already exist (Gov. Funded food assist, EBT, child support etc. Tax funded programs, that- in spirit: welfare programs do lean on collective resource pooling, which emulates socialist-esque mechanisms.
[”But when the distribution mechanisms try to become the engine—when a macro-society tries to run purely on “everyone’s a winner,” equity, and feelings-oriented ideals—it begins to consume the stored capital.”]
Getting rid of patriarchy is not the new frontier western people think it is, when all you’ve known your entire privileged lives is patriarchy’s provision. It’s not worth it.
TL;DR Mom has good intentions but can't back it up, Dad gets results but sometimes leaves people behind; there's no reason why those two realities can't work together to make a civilization & not assume Dad has to "step aside" & let mom run the show after you think you're safe enough to not need him anymore. Delusional.
Take your engine out of your car because you think you're far enough down the road to where you don't need it anymore, and see how much further you get to your destination without the component that got your ass on the road in the first place. 🧠Socialism & Equity are luxuries, not essentials. Egalitarianism is at minimum, a patch, not an upgrade. Because for the last time, those concepts do not show up until AFTER the harder work's been done to make a superpower a superpower.
And when your country's in decline, all those latter (maternal in principle) concepts seem to be more prominent.👈👈👈
That's not indicative of them being inherently bad, nor are they inherently necessary given what was done without their prominent involvement or perhaps- keyword: Perhaps: what was accomplished because they were excluded.
Yes! correct on the incentive point 9:24 if people got a fine for quitting they'd stop doing it as much, fact is there's a reward for destroying marriages, mainly women doing it.
Women's emotions fluctuate & some women see dysfunction as an evolutionary advantage but you have to keep in mind that the culture doesn't raise women to see monogamy as stability but a limitation, a ceiling instead of a threshold to a new venue of living.
They're raised with an "autonomy" / I, Me, Myself, Me, Autonomy, Me,: mindset.
That Former Mrs.Ball left likely because she felt bored, complacent, in his shadow probably & leaving was her gaining "agency" or some crap. Perhaps she didn't feel like she had enough part to play in the childrens outcome, perhaps he was a control freak about it.
Otherwise: "agency" is the usual cult dogma that's been drilled into their minds. We don't know her reasons, we're not in her head, but as a general rule this is the fetish dogma western women are brainwashed to obey like slaves, it's the modern rigid norm, but no one's supposed to challenge that norm even though it's hurting women's longterm interests.
Women were told to trade patriarchy for egalitarian socio-political gain & career enslavement; they traded nuclear unit norms for the norms that burn them out, leaves them isolated & lonely because most men will sleep with them but don't take them seriously or respect them because of toxic internet culture that just drives the two further apart either through the media disrespecting men, more gaslights & enabling female resentment of men. Or malecentric echo chambers feeding male resentment of women. People talking past each other, fetishes, distractions etc.
Or the good men they get, they run away for "self-preservation", there's always a term given to them to justify being the weakest link of civilization and frame it like a sovereignty crisis.
Always a victim, hence why they'll never be taken seriously as equals or peers, if you're not held accountable, you're not perceived as an equal or an authority. Apparently not even by womens own women's movements.
Women always have an excuse framed like an existential ultimatum and if you challenge that then you must be a misogynist.🤓🙄
*It's not women's fault that they aren't taught to be wives in the first place. Men have to realize that.* You have to, that's the part that's left out in this "American/Modern Woman" meme. Women are listening to someone's narrative, Even listened to the snake, women either obey norms that help them, or norms that will destroy them. Just because the ideals are coming from Feminism, doesn't mean they're not rigid norms.
And keep in mind this is a basketball wife, not some southern bell from the rural south who was raised to be a real woman and raises the quality of her husband because she is quality.
Aka The lost legend of the "Matriarch".
Let's not confuse the two, there's way too many sub-countries within the one nation of The U.S.A to broadbrush women as a homogenous group.
Is it majority? Arguably. But not all of em.
I will agree with OP that the best American women to marry haven't been born yet, or more likely: Are dead already.
Either pick your meet spots better or just go abroad with tampered expectations, because modernity has infected the entire planet in one way or another. And the quality of men in America aren't exactly 9 out of 10s either.
This is just the era you've been dealt. And it's not all on women, it's mainly on their alleged "movements" that don't get held accountable for what they're telling women, & warping their expectations of life and men. Only then to blame men when the egalitarian, socialist, female-centric ways don't work because they're not and have never been efficient.
That homie made a good observation the bob's acknowledging what he did wrong in the imprisonment chamber as Violet got them out simultaneously, didn't demean him when it easily could've & these days? Likely would've been written to do just that likely uncutting his monologue as a joke or something, especially with Helen reinforcing her own agency in the situation telling Dash not to interrupt him, that little detail is so good vs just sitting there passively & listening until Violet does her thing, everyone in those few seconds had something to do, Violet acted, Bob came full circle on his arc, Dash noticed Volet, Helen reinforced Bob's moment. Everyone had a part.
That man is paying attention to the writings nuance, much appreciated. And agreed. 1:31:15 could barely make him out over the others but he voiced exactly what that scene worked. the guy on the 2nd row on bottom, 2nd left box
2:09 Outside of the film, lets be real::: For Kara to go her own way is to retcon the cousin connection or just retcon her entirely from a universe that has a Superman already, or turn her into a Superman villain, or turn her into either Supermans daughter (Superman: secret identity) & he steps down, depowers with age, goes missing or dies honorably-- which technically is nepo still, but thats a way more organic torch pass, than a miracle survivor cousin which trivializes Kal surviving at all (And I STAND by that because it's 100% facts).
And a daughter being trained by Superman, Batman & WW displays she earns the mantle.
Vs the cousin just being handed the suit being of family ties, aka nepotism.
Or the DCAU route which was unintentionally better because STAS couldn't use Kara Zor-EL legally at the time so they just made her "In Ze" as a work around and that ended up being better anyway.
Kara can NOT go her own way getting by on nepotism. She can NOT go her own way wearing the same costume aesthetic, doing the same thing just with an edgy attitude or that cutesy cali-girl vibe, or the rough girly big sister schtick or the powergirl gimmick. Or whatever Woman of Tomorrow caught itself trying to do.
Just gimmicks, gimmicks, & another stock Kara Zor- El finds herself for the thousandth time filler arc. No substance. No purpose.
She's likeable, but her concept is likeable garbage.
I say this on every video on Kara Bore-El Disparu does that I happen to be on because it's true: The movie was doomed to be cheap, not bad, not the worst but weak knees because that reflects the character.
*To improve Supergirl is to rewrite the character entirely, DC & WB refuse to do that, they instead double-down and so--- this will keep happening.*
Not if the film had the guts, but if DC had the guts. But perhaps there's truth in that, because if the film did go that route, the comics would likely follow. Either way, the pivot has to start somehow.
She will never represent anything feminist when her namesake & stake is because of who she knows. Not what she's done. And the most significant thing she's ever done, twice was sacrifice herself, and it got undone; trivialized. Both times.
When if that was kept intact, she'd be immortalized, because both sacrifices were actually pretty moving, and that's coming from me.
When a manchild spoof of Superman (Prime) has a better character arc than Supergirl, while having a similar tragedy & origin parallel to hers, and far less material given to actually be a character vs a mascot; he's leagues more insufferable yet somehow has a more staple cult presence & nuance (and i use that lightly) than she ever did but she's the one that keeps getting chances, because of relation, not depth or global significance; Kara needs a rework, badly.
It has less to do with feminism & the actress, and everything to do with what you're adapting. Avatar The Last Airbender was plenty feminist, and that didn't stop it from owning.
2:09 There's a difference between scorning an audience that could have supported, or a movie of a character that has a fanbase, but no audience or meaningful significance in the first place. There's a difference.
Can't blame it all on politics or optics, not all of it; the material is just dry af.
If they made an adaptation of Kara's DC Nuclear Winter story, people would love it. Why? Because it's a moving story. I'd sooner recommend people read that than Woman of Tomorrow.
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