For conservative men, one of the top things they value is having children.
A commentor reasonably retorted with this:
“To be fair, it’s not the men who have the children. Women have the children. They get pregnant, they carry, they give birth, and they hope the men stick around through it all.”
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That first sentence is more than a fair point, but with a flaw.
Of course, conservative men want kids more likely, they aren’t going to be giving their bodies to deliver the baby, true true. Agreed.
- If they did, they’d probably want it less, but if they did, women would be obsolete to the species as the natural threshold of life, so women really should stop taking their primary biological stake for granted.
There’s plenty in civilization that women aren’t carrying their weight’s worth of, namely dangerous jobs, despite females being the majority of humanity.
*Women have children, men have the seed that makes women’s role in the reproductive process even possible ONTOP of men having civilization itself on lock.*
NOBODY is bringing that up while we’re having the “they give birth” talking point as if it’s rocket science or she has to code the child’s genetic makeup molecule by molecule to form it’s organs, which is active effort.

The pregnancy process is literally a passive, automatic sequence up until delivery. No qualifications, no skill, any NPC with the female build & fertile capacity can do it.
But not just anyone can build the Golden Gate bridge, that’s the difference. That’s actual work.
NO ONE is tryna have that conversation tho.
The only reason why pregnancy’s messy, taxing simplicity is exacerbated, is because the process is a brutal, chemical hellscape and the final phase is ungodly painful. And yet, I’m not congratulating anyone for a participation toll.
I’d sooner praise good parenting which is actual work and effort because it’s ACTIVE and not passive.
Over a painful consequence attached to a process you didn’t do for society anyway (which is the caveat to Knowles “self” point, have kids, don’t have them — people do either due to ego. Can’t escape it.)
So why should I thank, revere, let alone deify women, when the real work (raising a useful member) isn’t even done yet, if it ever gets done?
No one is tryna have that conversation, ever.
So no, Its not men carrying children, instead they’re carrying the civilization children & women use.
And women use it without a second thought as to how it’s maintained in the backrooms they don’t care to be a part of, or the underground, or WHO is doing the high-end labors (building cities, bridges, power plants, power grids, maintaining sewer system).
Women have that privilege to not even worry about any of this, not carry their weight, walk into buildings women didn’t build to go online to chirp about what men aren’t doing, while men are indeed dying on the jobs, but women still get to have an opinion about it, as they should.
You don’t need to do the thing, to be able to talk about it —
So It’s only fair men get the same consideration regarding having children.
Doesn’t mean men are entitled of women’s birthing powers, but merely the consideration, given how much men carry of civilization themselves; and no one seems to care and yet expect everything to work properly anyway.
Second & most important, Women wouldn’t have to “hope” for men to stick around if the women that raised THOSE men (since single moms are so rampant now), chose better men in the first place & or raised better men that stuck around for other women.*
Why do women grant low quality men heirs anyway, and then can’t manage to raise a better man than the one that abandoned them.
Because who better to groom good men for women than women?
So if women have to “hope” now, then women are failing women, all because her body, her bad choices, her fault.
Her choices make other women pay for it. Thats the price of bad choice.