23:50 It aint right to stave him off for a whole year, thats just unreasonable. But thats zero excuse to cheat & Hila brings up an excellent point that after 3 pregnancies will have an immense impact on her willingness to want sex, hormones, mindset etc. And I bet you if Ethan concede that much, turned off the camera and spoke to her privately, that would've been positive turning point for them vs what he did which was deflect.
- Can they not compromise on oral or something?
- Then him just wanting the action without possibly meeting her half way with romancing or massages (which men don't require to get primed, but many women do) or approaching it with more respect is also applicable.
When men bring this up, my mind immediately goes to:::::
How are you approaching her for the ritual in the first place? Just like way back when.
Women don't have male's wiring entirely, they can't just see something & then *boing, they're ready to go. Their testosterone doesn't work that way, foreplay, buildup, attention.
Cause her answer (yes/no/maybe) comes AFTER how he asked in the first place.
Does she feel safe, does she want to or is the reality that she has to perform? or possibly, is her denial a reaction to his lack of effort in recent memory that she is subconsciously tracking. We need to keep that in mind. An organic escalation vs a demand of participation.
Doesn't mean neglect of his needs is okay, but a lot of this boils down to lack of consideration on both sides.
Cause Men do begin to lose that charm & enthusiasm to impress when getting complacent in marriage too, then when the willingness she gave back when he did 'the things' way back disappears, nothing regarding causality clicks in his head. it's not one way. Not all transaction either, that model hasn't been doing great.
Interdependence is underrated.
Some people just don't know how to negotiate anymore either, not a modernity bad thing but it's undeniable how much more awkward recent generations have become. For this, its namely how they're disagreeing on-air kind of gives some insight, it's unfortunate.
